Holy cow you window washing guys are so much nicer. i read through some topics over there and man do they get nasty. Dont know if i want to post over there. lol
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Haha, no kidding. I think WCR is the exception to what most industry forums are like. PWR is a little more āmainstreamā.
I think thereās a lot of valuable info and experience to be learned there; you just have to wear your reinforced boxers and remember to take nothing personally 
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Might have to throw on my Tanny tighties from my army days lol
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Probably cause half the regulars here are Jehovahās Witnesses
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Here is where the anger comes from:
- Insurance.
I have spent weeks trying to get workers comp and nobody wants to cover it. ANGER
There is no insurance classification code for power washing, so most companies wont carry you. Thatās where Joe Walters comes in. They will put you under Carpet Cleaning code.
But even then, itās a huge headache to get covered. ANGER.
- Government Environmental Regulations.
There is a prevailing paranoia among contracters that the govt over regulates to line their own pockets. ANGER.
Compliance is expensive. ANGER.
Suppliers who build and sell the environmental equipment are lumped in with the āsheistersā. ANGER.
PW contractors who work with govt to set regulations are accused of wanting the strict regs so they can sell the expensive equipment. ANGER
Contractors think they are viewed as environmental criminals who are part of the problem instead of responsible cleaners who are helping solve the problem of pollution through their Best Management Practices. ANGER
Most customers couldnāt care less about the environment and just want the cheapest price, even after attempts to educate them by contractor. ANGER.
- Power Petes.
Pete can go get a 1000 dollar machine and carry no insurance, no work comp, practice worst cleaning methods. Then he goes and undercuts the legit contractor whoās spent the time and money.
So what should be a $1000 job gets won by Pete who does it for $350 and then uses cold water and a 0Ā° tip to remove gum from concrete. ANGER.
This is my synopsis after spending many hours reading, Youtubing, and networking with ppl on the industry. They are a protective little family but there are some guys worth listening to.
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There are only two kinds of people on those forums, veterans and non veterans and the two dont seem to get along very well. Vets dont like to hand out answers, and a lot of the questions over there are the same caliber as the ones that annoy us here. āWhat to chargeā kind of questions. The same stuff over and over again
You think theyre bad you should try hanging out in a carpet cleaning forum or facebook group.
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Itās probably b/c ppl on both these forums are so self-important and diluted, they think cleaning windows is on par with neurosurgery.
Itās a service, a very low-barrier-to-entry one at that; anyone can do it. Instead of whining how a handful of new guys use the forums to get ballparks on pricing, or time, or any other general questions, shoot them a quick answer if youād like. If not, breeze past the post. Donāt give a condescending, d-bag answer, and then jump on another post to complain about how much you help newbies.
Itās cleaning windows. A trained monkey could do it. Literally. Iāve seen it on YouTube. Itās crazy. Just relax and give advice if you can.
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For instance, this is me training my guy.
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And if you had a hundred monkeys with keyboards theyād probably ask what what soap to use and whether other cleaners fling poo when told āmissed a spotā.
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I donāt think anybody necessarily thinks itās rocket surgeryā¦
But people who are serious about the quality/level of there work, want to do the best the can. Doing the best you can, requires knowing the best method. Since the best method for everyone varies with personal preference, strengths, experience, and circumstanceā¦ there are multiple ābest methodsā. Granted, some feel strongly that their ābest methodā is an absolute law, but this occurs in any vocation; from pizza delivery to neurosurgery. Having a preferred and researched method doesnāt make you self important or deluded , it makes you a professional.
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This is probably the wrong time to say, āI think you mean, ādeludedā.ā
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Never said ppl shouldnāt take pride in their work, no matter the profession.
What I said was the guys intent on acting like a-holes b/c a newcomer may ask a question thatās been asked 10,000 times before can stuff it; itās cleaning windows, get over yourself (not you personally, in general).
The original poster was āscaredā (I sense he was being hyperbolic, but ya never know) off by the forums. I posited one reason as to why that could be. Thatās it.
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Thatās hard to argue. But why are your own words in quotes? Lol. Couldāve just put them around the word.
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I get what your saying. I think this is more of a forum etiquette issue. If you have a question, search for the answers, before asking. Regardless of the forum, if you ask a question for the millionth timeā¦ Some will give you a negative responseā¦ Iāve done it, and people were mean. People should handle things how you said, but they donāt (in general). I think itās important to realize forums contain all the normal personality types and many of those are unpleasant. Glean what knowledge you can from the unpleasant sorts and keep on reading. Ideally everyone would handle things how you suggestedā¦
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Does this mean JW have better manners ? Or we feel the Golden rule means something!
You are smudge and arrogant
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I must say from my first ever post here everyone has been nothing but nice.
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Most JWās that come by my house seem angry.
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I recent that
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