Check it out. Then give Nanovations a call for a sample!
John W. Mangham Sr.
Search Automotive Technologies, LLC
Nanovations USA
7950 Central Industrial Drive, Suite 100
Riviera Beach, FL 33404
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Tell me what you think. If you do some testing write about it here on this forum.
I also wrote an article about this product on the Glass Smart Product Review blog’
Henry
Hi Steve,
I totally love your thinking. Thanx for adding that link to this thread!
Let me first show you a picture of what Nanovations says is the difference.
Remember now that this is biased info. And Nanovations will tell you that they have a self assembling polymer that “treats” the glass on a nanoscopic level. Which if the picture is correct demonstrates this very well. Glass pores are about five microns across. Each micron equals a thousand nanometers. So their treatment could be around a hundred nanometers thick.
I am guessing because of these properties it is definitely not a PDMS which stands for polydimethyl siloxane. Very interesting your reference says that Rain X has sulfuric acid. This chemically reacts with glass. It is a glass etchant. And is the primary reason why Rain X “sticks” to the glass. If you just let it run down the windshield you can see the effects of this. I also know the application of Rain X is different too. When I apply the NG1010 I don’t get the “shmear effect”. But Rain X is notorious for this. Also Nanovations says that the NG1010 is rain ready in 30 minutes but that it takes 24 hours for the SAM (Self Assembling Monolayer) to form. Which is radically different from the properties of Rain X. For these reasons and more I don’t believe that the NG 1010 is anywhere close to the same chemistry. But I can’t tell you exactly what it is.
Nonetheless the bottom line here is we really don’t care what the chemistry is. We just want a product that is going to hang in there for at least six months to a year and help us get the hard water spots off way easier the second time around. Marc Tanner has already set up some experiments a couple weeks ago. The preliminary results are promising. I will keep everyone updated.
Keep connected with the Glass Smart blog at www.glass-smart.blogspot.com
Otherwise I will be posting on this forum too.
Henry
I have just 3 days ago applied both RainX and Nanovations Vision Protect to my windscreen, half each. Will be interested to see any performance differences. With the bit of rain we have had so far they both shed the water the same. Will see how they compare over time, and how easy they are to keep clean.
Have also applied NG1010 to a section of our shower screen - see how well it keeps clean compared to untreated sections.
Excellant! Remember that application technique is very important for some products. The sulfuric acid in Rain X does etch and clean the glass enough to help coat it. With products such as the NG1010 we should take care to make sure the surface is perfectly and completely hydrophylic before applying. Pure water must completely sheet. No water drops at all. The products Nanovations offers will accomplish that for you. I have tested them. They do work. They have a compound/cleaner. And a scrubbing tool. The CL 50 is a cleaner. It is the other product that must be used with the scrubbing tool. Or you can polish with a cerium oxide.
I am testing five different products right now for scratch resistance. Already know the NG1010 is effective in resisting scratches. So we will see about, Rain X, 3 Star Barrier, EnduroShield, and Aquapel. The real key however will be in longevity. I am thinking that might be where you see the difference in your windshield test. Longevity is usually limited by UVC. Or ultraviolet radiation from the sun. Which differs greatly in this Country based on the Ozone Map. Here in NH I will get burnt real bad. But in Southern California not so much!
Henry
Cleaned with the product supplied in the sample kits. Was thinking that longevity would be the real test.
I’d like to try this stuff out too. DFI has a lifetime warranty. Does NG1010 come with that?
I think they have a ten year warranty if applied to brand new glass. And like five if applied to restored glass.
Whatever that happens to be however it is the applicator that will have to support it. And personally I don’t see how anyone can offer a lifetime warranty on any product. To know how long any product will last on any window it must be tested, one month, six months, a year, and so on. I do know that Marc Tanner has some tests set up right now and we are waiting for the results on the Nanovations NG1010. The tests are a couple weeks out. So far results are promising. No guesswork here. I am currently developing a series of different tests for sealants. You will find them in my blog. The Glass Smart Product Review.
Henry
For sure, there are requirements. You have to keep up with the maintenance on a scheduled basis, to keep the warranty activated. How many people will actually do it? That’s a lot of warranties they won’t have to worry about.
Thanks for the info, Henry. It’s always interesting!
Yes I agree! Completely. Most will not want to spend the money. But you know. If we were to tell someone we could take their stains off for 25000 bux but the stains will come back in six months, we probably wouldn’t get the job. The bottom line here is in my opinion that warranties mean nothing. I don’t care who has it. If we price and do a restoration job the burden really falls on us to do the job properly and prevent those stains from returning. So we have to know what it will take to do this in terms of cost to the customer and the technology that we need to use. The ONLY way to do this is to test. Over time. We need to know exactly what it will take to return the glass to full clarity for at least six months. If a glass treatment/sealer cannot at least give us that it will not serve us or our customer.
This is why I am developing tests for glass treatments both hydrophobic and hydrophylic chemistries. I am developing videos and writing about them in my blog. But the actual results of these tests for specific brand name products will only be available through a newsletter I am going to start in April. Or you could follow the instructions and videos and do the tests yourself.
Henry
