Do You Go Back and Check Second Floor Windows From Inside When Using WFP?

@Majestic66

Thank you, this is helpful. I was using the Xero Wool Pad Kit, but maybe that’s not as good as steel wool.

What is a “gg4”?

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Glass Gleam 4, pro window soap.

Thank you @anon82274079

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Just assuming !! I had a vibe :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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So in regards to removing screens to then water fed the windows.
You remove screen from inside you have to go inside take off.
Then water fed the glass/ window.
Go back inside check the windows if there are marks that the water fed brush has not been removed go out side.
Water fed go inside again put screen back on.
Unless you have second person remove and replace the screen as the other do the water poling the outside.
And of cause you can only do this if the customer is at home.

If the screen comes from the outside you could go inside and push the out and pull them inside.
Unless there clips on the out side of screen.
You may have use a ladder to get them off.
Water fed the glass/window.
Go up again ladder again to put screen back on and while you there you can clean up any missed spots.

Although seem to remember someone on here suggested just water fed though the screens would save hell of lot of time.
Just saying.

So you are saying cleaning the screen and window in the same step with a WFP?
It doesn’t work very well. I have many customers who have the diamond security type screens on double hungs that are riveted in place, so not removable. The way I clean these if to spray them with soap, rinse then rinse again with pure water, they come out better but if that is how you want to leave windows ( half assed) just because its easier, when you could remove the screen and clean the window.

75-80% of the jobs I do the sliding windows need to be lifted out to remove the screen, then re installed to be cleaned from the outside, then the screen get cleaned then the process has to be done again to re install the screen.
So for me I always check the window that was cleaned by WFP when I am re installing the screen, if there is any parts missed, I spin the window around and do it traditionally or lean out of the open window if the fixed pane has errors.

For typical screens its not a big difference, but I feel its alot easier to remove screens from the outside. When you get to a house where they built all the screens too big I at least know i can get the screen out with a small putty knife and a paint can opener. It seems those tricks don’t really work when you are doing it from the inside. maybe i just haven’t tried it enough but thats how i’ve always felt. Also how i was taught.

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I agree with the statements by @Sethfenster we never found screens we could not remove from the inside and always touched up the outsides from the inside or used a pad on the wfp to touch up outside. Ladders were not a option in my case.

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A few things to add from my experience if you’re wanting to WFP for first time cleans:
-a swivel head WFP brush is necessary (or at least extremely helpful) for certain windows that have section of roof below them which requires cleaning them from an angle
-1st story windows tend to be dirtier than 2nd story windows, unless they have been cleaned by the customer. You can usually tell how well the 2nd story windows you cant look closely at from the outside are going to turn out based off of how the 1st story windows which you can examine are looking after you cleaned them
-If windows haven’t been cleaned in 5+ years, they can have a hazy film which is very hard to get off with WFP, so sometimes I go nose to glass for 1st time cleans if I know this is the case, then know I can be comfortable with WFP for all future cleans

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A lot of our mid rise work is done in the early morning hours or on the weekends when inside access is not possible. I was very good at looking at the high windows with the right angle and light and could see my mistakes from the ground. Also since ladders were not a option on first time cleans I got real good with using the same tools on a wfp that would be used with nose to glass.