Are smaller jobs more profitable?

Yea, except they added like 25 windows to the remodel. So “zoom” is subjective. :wink:

@$14 a window, one can double that

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Can you expand on this statement Bruce, it only 2 dollar more the Samuel example, “double” :confused:

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$800 a day as was mentioned in that post is $100-$130 pmh already depending how much on the glass in 8 hours

many service businesses are finding $120 to be the current pmh standard and are achieving with less than $14/window

leverage, leverage, leverage is the key

of course this isn’t going to happen with some crusty neglected tract home rental that hasn’t been cleaned in a 100 years lol

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Thanks Bruce for the quick response!

Lol
"crusty neglected tract home rental that hasn’t been cleaned in a 100 years!"

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“Do you worry about drip throughs from the inside after you’ve already cleaned the outside?

Charles – No I don’t. Like many things, there is a trick for it. I use two rags at a time – One dry on my right shoulder and one damp on my left shoulder. I take the damp rag and put it on top of the bottom sash and push it towards the top sash. As water runs down the top sash, it collects on the damp rag. Then I remove the damp rag and detail the glass as normal. When the damp rag becomes too wet I get a new clean rag for my right shoulder and put the rag that was on my right shoulder on to my left shoulder. That’s the way I was taught.

John Blystone

ClearView Window Cleaning

330-787-4814 Cell

Clearview-Window.com

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It depends on the variables. Are we talking solo? Are we talking first time cleans or return jobs? How many months between cleans. One guys might say, “yah I can do a 6500 Sq ft home and make $600.00-700.00 a day!” but he might be talking about a return job or his pricing might be higher than yours because he is more well established.

For me the sweat spot is 4500-6000 Sq ft homes working solo and average $500.00 a day in 7-9 hrs depending on the job. The first clean might take longer but on return jobs are sweat! The homes are usually clean and not cluttered, the home owner usually greets me (If they even do that) and let’s me go to work,and even often leave me at the home alone where there is no pressure! The landscape is generally well kept and not unruly (no bushes cascading over the windows and no side hard Un landscaped and just plain mud) and they generally do the windows regularly so they are fairly clean and they always pay on time and without hassle.

I can generally do a job like that very comfortably in one day. Do the outside before lunch in the summer and inside first in the winter. That does vary depending on the customers needs. I absolutely love these jobs! I have really made it a point to take care of these customers and try to cater to them so they will refer me to their friends who generally have similar homes. I have been able to penetrate several neighborhoods where these homes are the norm.

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The 1400 square foot homes with 10 windows for $75 are sweet one hour jobs . Then the second time I will get $100

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Is it worth weighing the income you are losing from down time between jobs?

It would be tough to build a business with that many jobs, how many you are doing in a day , a week, a month. It would take years to build that customer base.

Like many things we take the desirable and undesirable jobs to fill our schedules. Or price the most undesirable jobs to be worth it.

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I suppose it depends on the regional geography, if you know what I mean.

My area has a lot of condos and communities with cookie cutter houses close together. It’s common and quite simple to book multiple jobs on the same street on the same day. I’ve even used that as incentive for folks who didn’t bite on my first bid. X% discount if they can round up a handful of neighbors to book on the same day. Then just work my way down the line without even moving the truck.

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Hold on, hold on…First clean, which is arguably the tougher job, is $25 LESS than subsequent cleans, which are generally easier?

PMH im sure he means

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That’s one of the big things to consider as well. The smaller the jobs the more customers per year to manage. Also figure your vehicle expense. It gets even worse when you have employees. The more jobs on the schedule the more your paying them to sit in the truck and the more excuses you give them not to get the jobs done.

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don’t forget market comes into play. @SqueegeeNinjaNJ is/was in the same market as @Chris i believe and if you read the window cleaners marketing blueprint you may be shocked by what chris was charging at times for each window.
if i could get what he got at his peak times i could easily exceed $1K per day solo (at peak times) but the market here would not allow that.
as it is i can do 400-500 per day solo pretty easily, 600 is quite doable and i usually max out at about 800-900 for a solo day.
of course it all depends on actually having the work as well and that is my key focus for this coming season.

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Yeah I don’t have the book with me right now but what was the number like 20 a window or something?

actually higher
:astonished:
:cactus:27
ps. anyone who does not have the book should get it

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Wow. What am i doing wrong??

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well maybe nothing but impossible to say offhand. feel free to add more info here or pm if you want.

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No way for me to know what’s going on with you, but maybe try to compartmentalize your hourly wages by category.

Factor a separate cost for each activity instead of bidding the job as a whole.

I get $3 a screen, so if a house has 10 screens I shouldn’t be handling them for more than 30 minutes from the first one I remove until the last one goes back in place.

I get $4 a window for outsides on the first floor, so a house with 10 windows should take me about 30 minutes once I get moving. If it’s taking more time than that, then I need to re-evaluate my pricing, or figure out how to work faster, or both.

If you break down your wages like this, it’s possible to determine where your work flow is in need of tweaking, or where your price may be flagging.

You can also use this method to establish a variable rate that keeps your wages where they should be. For example (and this is completely arbitrary but it makes the point): the first 15 screens can be $3 each, after which it jumps to $5 each, based on the assumption that more screens means a larger house and more running around to collect and replace them.

no its been cleaned 3 times before I get there