I bought a 4’ mid section last year on Mike’s recommendation. My employees and I don’t like it and it never gets used anymore.
1- 8’ top section
1- 6’ top section
2- 6’ mid sections
1- 6’ base section
Pivit Ladder Leveler
^^^That’s the money set up right there, I tell ya!!
PS- Now we are even, Mike. You feel like you wasted money on the Pivit tool, based on my recommendation. Now I feel like I wasted my money on the 4’ section, based on your recommendation. Haha 
A 8’ tip is not really a need be ! A 6’ tip makes moving the set through a house much easier ! An 8’ tip is over sized… if you need the extra 2’ feet in the set get a 6’ tip 3 6’ mid sections and a 4’ base which will give you that 2 extra’ ! Actually one 6’ tip and two 6’ mid section and a 6’ base work the best…Carrying around a 8’ tip in someones home is like carrying a 30’squeegee in a squeegee holster through out someones home, just visualize that !
Plus as in the vid you see the beauty of attached ladder levelers…Guys complain about the weight but we’re physical laborers and trying to get away from work just aint going to happen !
Mike you got yourself a pivit tool ?
Dr. Dange
After talking to Robert Lamb I will never allow levelers yo be used on any of our ladders. Not worth the potential danger.
I use 2 1/2 sections more than any other combination
I’ve been using sectionals from day one, but what do I know.
Everybody has their opinions on the best sectional set up, and they are just that… opinions. My opinion is that an 8’top section is a must have.
Oh, and attached levelers are a must NOT.
Well Seth ,
You must know quite a bit if your working for your self with employees, your saying just exactly what your saying others are doing, opinion. I deal with reality and the truth is an 8’er will work but it’s over kill and carrying it into a house has to be done separate to avoid hitting the walls and ceiling, ideally you should be able to carry 4 sections all together through a tight spot rather then making 2 trips but if one wants to make 2 trips well that’s them ! I prefer 1 trip with all the sections held tightly to my body !
Leveler make life easier and the pivit works too, but leveler are the standard in this and other industries and they work much quicker then trying to set the pivit tool, but both will work !
I know we disagree but I see you as a legitimate cleaner who knows what he’s doing ! I just look at things from a production level ! Plus sectional are limited at times so one will need an extension ladder at times so that’s a standard piece of equipment…
Dave
“A man convinsted against his will is of the same opinion still”
I gave it to Nick
Next stop ladder wars!
All kidding aside - industry “standards” change. The old Chicago squeegee was standard until Ettore invented the modern squeegee. Ladders have given way in the UK almost exclusively to wfp and safety concerns were at the top of the list as to why. Each owner must evaluate what is safest for his employees. I happen to agree w/ Seth that the Pivit tool is great (it was his recommendation that made me buy one) and a much safer option to leg levelers. I’ve also talked to several painting contractors in my area who use and swear by the Pivit tool. When asked why they all said the felt safer w/ it than leg levelers. It can take time for safer practices to gain acceptance and some can go their whole career w/out an incident but that doesn’t make it safe, it just makes them lucky.
And just to make it clear - I’m not calling anyone unsafe. I’m just voicing my opinion on the merits of using what I consider a safer option. Sorry for sidetracking the discussion.
can you tell us more about this?
He was using an almost new leveler. It had a defect and broke. He feel 20+ft and suffered a broken back and has been confined to a wheelchair since. On the upside Rob is one of the nicest, most positive guys you will ever meet and I consider it a privilege to call him my friend.
Sad for Rob…Seriously injured but he’s still vibrant and a good man ! The levelers that he used had an aluminum tube that failed today they are no longer made that way ! The ones I recommend have a steel tube and one should never use them to extend the ladder with them fully extended ! they are leveler not extenders !
Anything can happen to anyone, anytime, anyplace…Do we not drive because we are afraid of being broadsided while going through a green light ? No, do we refuse to eat because we may choke to death / Do we not walk on a roof even though it’s not tilted a lot and with no tie offs / do we not use a 6’ razor for fear of being cut,which can happen ?
I trust them with my life and I’ve used them for decades ! It don’t mean one day something can’t happen that’s why one of our Standard Operating Procedures is to always check your tools never fully extend them and never over compensate your procedures with them , and always think things through, that’s why you should always look both ways before going threw an intersection on a green light or look both ways before stepping off a curb !
Dave
Oooooh , I never answered you question , yes sectional would be lighter and easier to carry !
Dave
Wow scary stuff.
Hey Seth
I guess you like to use a 8ft piece instead of a 6ft piece when you need a couple more feet. I like to add my 1/2 piece to turn my 6ft top into a 9ft top. Similar but different.
How do you like the Featherweight Steccone squeegees I told you about? HaHa
Im assuming you cant haul sectionals on a ladder rack since they are too short (at least for my long bed truck). Dont they take up alot of cargo space?
Put two pieces together an they should fit just right on your rack, about a 10-11 foot length. Just lock em’ up!
Sectionals for inside work: easy to take up stairs, thru elevators, etc. Extension ladder outside, generally. IMHO. Keep both around.
What sectional pieces do you usually use for inside work? Are 2 sections usually enough? I’m mainly concerned with cleaning windows over staircases. We usually use a little giant style ladder on staircases or a 16 foot ext ladder with a pivot tool. Would the sectionals replace both of these ladders?
yes
