What do customers really care about?

tl;dr: I’m thinking of cutting back what i offer cause customers prolly only really care about fairly clean glass.

So i currently offer three service levels on residential, which has been a fantastic system. I’m thinking of modifying what’s in each package, though, specifically reducing it. The reason is, I want to do less of what i dislike doing, in particular because i think customers don’t even care about it.

There are two main things: track cleaning and frame cleaning.

In my highest level of service i flush the tracks with water, which is a huge pain cause i have to refill the water bottle every three windows or so. Plus, the whole process of brushing, vacuuming, flushing, and scrubbing takes so long. In the middle level i only brush and vac.

I only do frame cleaning on the highest tier (of course i wipe runoff that gets in the frame on any tier). I clean just about everything, including the underside of the windows, the tops of the sashes, the sides of the inner frame. It’s a lot, and i price it accordingly, but i also dislike doing it, to the point where I’m always like, “Darn!” when someone orders the highest level even though it will pay well.

Now, me disliking these things wouldn’t matter if i was confident customers really cared. But, many of these details the customer really never sees and I’ve been more and more realizing, hey, people just look out their windows from a distance and none really even stares out a window. People seem to be happy as long as the haze is gone and there’s no bird poop or major streaks or smudges. I say major cause honestly I’ve wanted to touch up streaks that i caught during inspection and customers didn’t even care and said no the windows look great. In fact, most people don’t even do an inspection; they just say wow the windows look so great. Maybe it’s my area, or the fact that I’m very picky, but people just don’t seem very picky. I feel like if the major dirt is gone they are happy.

So, do the tracks really even need to be white? Like, the windows are usually closed anyway and the majority gets clean from the water when doing the outside anyway. Does anyone even care about the gunk in the corners? No one ever gets close enough to their windows to look in there. And who looks at their window frames? They are looking out the window, plus, how bad are the frames anyway. Wiping them hardly makes a difference.

Honestly, i spend more time cleaning non-glass than i do glass, but I’m beginning to believe customers really only care about the glass, and even that they aren’t super picky. Maybe this is why some of you guys can do so many houses solo in a day and pull in $800 or more. Maybe I’m just doing too much, but also can’t really charge more cause it’s stuff that’s ​not important enough to the customer.

Whew, long post, but hopefully an interesting topic to talk about. Where do you guys stand on these issues?

I read the first paragraph and skimmed the rest. Lol.

Basically I just offer a complete clean. If they ask, sure ma’am I do that. But most of the time all they want is to see out of their windows. Imo just make it easy on them. That’s what they want…

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We dont offer packages …just a price for clean glass , sills , screens etc. We always give the customer our suggestion but we let them decide.

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@Luke didn’t we just have this conversation last night? :joy::joy:

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Hire an employee. Train them to do the work you hate. Problem solved, you’re welcome. :rofl:

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I was thinking that I might be doing too much as well…the perfectionist in me…Then something I came to realize after my last job. I saw a couple tracks I missed and a couple streaks…I wanted to touch them up, but my customer said no worries…they look great!..and then it ht me…Our Customers look THROUGH their windows…we look AT them. Sounds like you are just learning what their general expectations are and you’re adjusting your process. Something I continue to work on!

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Do you get more repeat business off the less expensive basic service or the more expensive service? I would think if they don’t appreciate the extra detail perhaps they’d call someone else the next time seeing as you’re so expensive.

When I worked for the multi million dollar carpet cleaning company just about everybody we cleaned chose the middle level of service. That’s what people wanted and I believe they no longer offer three levels of service just one level now.

Really good but not great.

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The majority of customers will be happy with a good job, you will however get 1% of the customers who expect perfection and at times due to situations beyond me these are un achievable due to certain screen or blind additions which have been made with a person who didn’t understand how the window worked.

For example I have a few customers who had added a security screen to sliding doors the installer made them boxed in so they look sleek however in doing so covered the drainage holes so when the windows above and screens are cleaned then the windows get WFP the boxed track system is filled with about a gallon of water with no drainage. the options I have is to just let it dry or use a sponge to manually remove most of the water, or i could use a wet vac, but tbh its not my problem I have told the customer what needs to be done.
Another customer has blinds installed the installer also did not understand that they are dressings to the WINDOW and the window still needs to be functional where in this case the wooden blinds were too close and boxed the window in so the slider could not be removed , which in order to remove the screen the window must first be removed.
When the customers attempt to inform the installer they have made an error coz the window cleaners says so they assume that the window cleaner has no idea WTF he is talking about coz he has been doing what he considers as a more important job than just cleaning the window for X amount of years.

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Yes. I hired a blind cleaner but like to keep him busy if I have a day of window cleaning. He can do straight pulls, but ever since I started using Responsibid and the 3 tier package system, people have been choosing the premium package with tracks and sills. I put my guy on screens and tracks and pay him $15 am hour to do it. Premium is usually an extra $100 so it pays off and the customer gets a better product. And I don’t have to do all that garbage I hate doing.

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Not sure yet, Mike. I only started the three tier system this season. The three levels are really good, so my issue isn’t with that (there’s been plenty of discussion on that). It’s more that i think i can lower how much i do and the customer be just as happy.

Kinda the point of three levels is the phycology that drives most customers to the middle level. So the carpet cleaning company you mentioned was on to something the way they were originally doing it.

The only other system i would try is the menu system, which i think @Garry and some others use if I’m not mistaken? But, again, this wasn’t so much about how you sell or organize your services; it’s proly more along the lines of the “how clean is clean” issue again. I think if you can dial in that sweet spot where you are doing the minimum you can but still exceeding your customer’s expectations, you can achieve your maximum efficiency and profit. If you do a 95% percent perfect job, but your customer only noticed 75%, yes you have the satisfaction of having done great work, but you also spent 20% time/effort on something that ultimately is not benefiting anyone - neither the customer’s enjoyment of the result, nor your wallet.

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Come to think of it, I’m going to just do 2 services. I’m getting rid of the middle grade one. No one chooses it anyhow. I think you should have a bare bones service (windows in and out plus wiping screens- no tracks) and a high end service. I’ve always just done 1 service but after using Responsibid, I’m seeing that I can get more $ for the higher end cleans.

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I’m all for equal opportunity employment, but how does that mesh with our line of work?

:stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Hahaha! You know, I’ve heard em all but it doesn’t get old.

iv recently come around to only doing the work i enjoy. im focussed on that from now on. the basic service at the basic type house. anything fancy is off limits. i had a discussion with my workers and theyre now prompting me if we draw up at anything out of the ordinary they say "heres another one we hate " i reply "mmm do you? " “you know we furkin do” and i make a point of replacing it soon as poss

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Most of my customers love having the sills cleaned, but we only use a sill brush followed by a wet towel after the glass is cleaned on the outside and a final wipe when the window is opened to finish clipping the screens. Also, screens are cleaned and most live that, too.

We don’t do a deep cleaning of the corners of the sills, and I’ve never had someone ask us to. When I tell new customers that we don’t “clean the corners with a toothbrush or anything” they all react the same: “Oh no, of course not. We don’t care about that.”

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Good point. The way I see it, if they were that obsesive about rhe cleanlimess ofbbb their tracks and frames they’d be doing it their self.

Most poeple just ask me, “can you wipe the sills?” and “do you do the screens?” That’s the most in depth anyone ever goes.

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Customer “do you clean the tracks?”

Me " yes we brush out then wipe with a wet rag"

Customer “ok”

1% of customers “but mine are really dirty”

Me " I can quote you a detailed track cleaning price"

Price is then so high they are happy with the original price or I’m happy with the detail price.

If they’re still confused I illustrate like the car wash you can get an $8 wash which cleans the car great or you can pay for a $250 detail, it all depends what you want

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imho:
different levels of service are good, not everyone wants cares about the same things.
packages are handy and can make things simpler but not the only way you can go
charge more or reduce or hire someone to do things you hate
for tracks i say “wipe tracks”, if further explanation is required or i have suspicion customer expects i clarify"my prices are all based on maintenance cleaning. for tracks i open up the window and wipe out the bottom of the track, it is not a super duper detail cleaning but if done regularly will keep the tracks pretty clean"
every cleaning company i have encountered has a different rate for one time cleaning, weekly/monthly cleaning etc

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