Hello everyone, I wanted to get everyones perspective on the water fed poles. I have a 30 year old company in Las Vegas where we use the traditions squeegee & strip washer. and I am very hesitant to try them out. I cant afford to get a call from a unsatisfied customer, or worse lose a customer do to bad work. 90% of our accounts are very high end residential customers. I have watched hours and hours of YouTube videos, but I can wrap my head around a couple things. 1. spotting 2. Drips 3. wiping. Please, any feedback or your thoughts on the WFP I greatly appreciate.
Use search bar lots of threads on here about this topic. Also just buy a cheap di tank and a decent pole I like reach it and Gardiner poles and use it at your house or office. I do mostly traditional in residential because I’m not that good with the wfp yet. But it is good to have once you get the techniques down it can save some labor.
Hey there. Give the free manual on the top of this page a download. It explains a bit about how it works.
I know I had a problem with too much water pressure…
Almost as if it were pushing water up under the seam of the seal. I don’t know… Do you have a pressure regulator?
Hey there I’m from Vegas too and my water fed pole is pretty much reserved for my quarterly clients. Trying to use it on first time cleans just doesn’t work for me. I also use it on those really awkward windows in front of a tree or ones that I really don’t feel comfortable doing from the ladder. Oh and french windows I love using my WFP on them.
Spotting just comes down to how well you agitate and rinse. I am probably an over rinser and I still have some spotting in the corners of the glass. Drips just happen to me randomly. Wiping I do rarely. Never had a customer complain about a job but again they are my regular customers.
Let me know if you have any other questions or if you want you can come check out my equipment (that sounded bad lol)
Robbie
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Hello and welcome,
Wfp are just like any other tool. In the right hands and with the right training and techniques one can work wonders.
The opposite is also true. My market was flooded a couple years ago when companies were springing up with their own wfp systems. Since then they’ve ruined they’re reputations because of bad results and have sold their systems because “wfps don’t work”.
You get out what you put in. Study up, read, and watch everything wfp related.
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As Chris mentioned the manual will be very helpful. As for spotting that is caused by either agitation or rinsing failure. Practice can fix that. Dripping is from not cleaning the frames good and wiping I am not sure of your question? I can help you determine the best filter and pole for your business. Call me at 865-310-0728
As John said, from what [Perry Tait instructs in his WFP Instructional Videos]
Spotting is caused by rinsing failure (too much pressure), my own experience with my system corroborates this. You want the water to come out as a solid stream, and cascade down using it like a squeegee. If there’s too much pressure out the jets of the brush, it’ll cause splashing, and splashed water spreads dirt and doesn’t get rinsed off.
You want a solid stream coming out about a foot off the brush before dropping. Given that water has to make contact with the resin for 30 seconds (from what Perry says), the volume of the DI tanks (to allow 30s contact), and the jets are 5/16" diameter (if i remember right)… you dont need much pressure in the line, or a high flow rate after any RO filter. I believe .5-1gpm is the flow rate for WFP’s.
As always with new equipment, test and practice before taking it to the field. It wont replace scraping, but it’ll save time on french cut-ups, and large projects (apt complexes, commercial bldg’s, etc…).
the problems with wfp are EXACTLY THE SAME as traditional: bad equipment or bad technique.
wfp is far easier to teach.
wfp is more enviromne…
i can’t do this wfp is just so superior i can’t believe any legitimate company would deny it to their customers.
@LasVegasJustWindows As far as being worried about spotting or drips on those high-end customers, don’t forget the good old fashion quality check before wrapping up. This will allow you to identify problem areas with specific windows or technically what you need to change. Just because you use the water fed pole doesn’t mean you can’t break out the traditional tools here and there for a few windows if you need to. Overall it will still save you a lot of time, it is much safer and in most situations provides a superior and more thorough clean.
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That’s awesome thanks for the offer, I think I will take you up on it. I would like to come check it out in action. Let me know when it will be in use. Thanks again!!
Cool I’ll let ya know probably won’t be till January. I saw one of your trucks yesterday up in green valley.
Sorry for the long delay, I just now seen where the replies were on this new site. I appreciate everyone taking the time to answer my question.
@LasVegasJustWindows what did you determine about the wfp? I’ve got some very high end customers with high and dangerous glass as well and several quarterly accounts with crazy obstacles to the high black glad and wfp seen to be a safer and more effective alternative. The gentleman I bought the company from said he tried wfp but because of the dust all over Vegas it wasn’t worth the effort. Thanks and have a super day.
Ron Bennett
WFP has been a great asset to our company. We do mainly pressure washing/soft washing and added a wfp to our set up last season. It was a great up sell, but we rarely ever do exterior windows by themselves, 99% of the time its after a house wash. I have found that this mitigates about 99% of the issues you had listed. The house wash mix helps clean the windows and the frames, and we rinse rinse rinse… then go through with a WFP. By that time we don’t have to touch the frames with the WFP (which is the cause of most issues people see).
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