Anyone interested in Beta Testing a Super Slip chem that will even help with hydrophobic surfaces? Send me your mailing address if you are. I am just beginning to look into this per the request of a friend.
Henry
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I’m intrigued. It seems the winsol slip makes hydrophobic commercial glass even stickier 
Be intrigued Alex! I have just taken the plunge down the rabbit hole. On my way to see Alice. Or maybe one of the Dads mystery characters. What I am saying is this is real science. It is going to be UNBELIEVABLY FUN!
Henry
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Oh yeah. One more thing. I checked out Winsols Super Slip MSDS and discovered nothing. They do not list any of the chemicals used. Not even a single CAS number. Not even a we ain’t going to tell you cuz it’s proprietary. Someone on this forum explained the user ratio is 1/256. Thats about an ounce to two gallons of water. I will buy a very small bottle just so I can compare it to the other chems that I get in. I have about eight I am going to call about.
Henry
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Does it react with sealants? That has always been the problem with hydrophobic sealants is the drag on the rubber.
I would be happy to be your ginnie pig Henry. Send me some at 20620 Crawford Rd. Lynnwood, WA 98036
Talk soon.
Aaron
Thanx so much Buzz. But what I really want is a transmitting electron microscope. Now that would be pricey! But I have the chance now to watch some really cool stuff going on down in PA University. Can’t wait to write my second article/post on this. It is REALLY cool! Needed to be done 25 years ago.
Thanx Aaron. We have a deal!
And Matt. The rubber drags because of the hydrophobic effect. To minimize this we need to cut the water tension chemically. I don’t think it will chemically bond with an applied sealant. But the only true and sure way to know what will happen is to get the chems and test them out in the field. Side by side under identical conditions. I talked with people today. The chems are coming. You know no manufacturer would do this for us!
Henry
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How much Super Slip were you using? It shouldn’t be making the glass sticky… We would love to help!
Hi Henry. You ever send the product sample to me? We have moved to CALI so send it to
3356 Cypress Ave. #21 Kelseyville, CA 95451
I am not remembering if I did. However. If this is a product you are interested in I can get you the information and make sure you get a couple of samples from the manufacturer that works with this chemistry. Very sorry that you did not receive it. Please send me an email however.
Henry
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Dilution ratio and the GHS SDS (which includes chemical composition in section 3) is available online at
Question. There is no ingredients listed on the MSDS for the Winsol Product. I was just curious why. I do know that it is seemingly harmless. Which is a very big advantage. But can we know anything at all about what it is we are using?
Henry
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Henry:
What was the result of your experimenting and testing? Any recommendations from you or anyone elst to help water sheet off hydrophobic surfaces?
Kenneth
Thank you Ken! Personally I have not tested the Winsol Slip product on hydrophobic glass. But a quick look at the MSDS shows that it is based on an organic chemistry. Not silicon. The superwetting surfactants I have been playing with are pure silicon based surfs. So the very least concentration of one in water will wet out a hydrophobic surface. This I have tested. I am guessing too that Winsol is using around 75% water. I could find the chems they are using at a 100% concentration online. Just so you wouldn’t have to buy water. This would likely save you at least half the price. It always gets me too how they always throw in that the formula is a “proprietary secret”. They really don’t want anyone to think all they need to do is buy the active ingredient and make their own. I can so easily find replacements for so many of these products. But everyone is so chained to thinking that a chemical must have a product name or it can’t be any good. If we need an MSDS the chemical company will supply it. They always supply an MSDS on every chemical product/sample I order. Please don’t misunderstand me however. There is a need for products, manufacturers, and distributors. The entire sales industry is based on a very refined structure. And everyone has their own job. It is just that once in awhile we can turn things around somewhat and save a few bux.
Henry
