TSP questions

I think I will get a 2nd bucket for rinsing by applicator. Almost every job I get has extensive deferred maintenance and even though I rub off the applicators dirty water on the outside of the bucket the clean water is still getting dirty too quickly.

Do you just do store front?

No I focus primarily on residential and I do have a truck. I run my bicycle storefront route on the 1st and the 15th of each month and focus on getting accounts that are within 30 minutes of my house by bike.

I like the bicycle because itā€™s eco-friendly, good exercise, saves on gas and I feel it actually saves me time too. I just move the whole operation from shop to shop and I never have to hunt for parking spaces or walk back and forth from the truck. Since Iā€™ve got my whole stash of towels and tools right behind me at all times I can lighten my belt load by a lot too.

What really makes the bike trailer practical is a bicycle highway (the legacy trail) that runs straight though the heart of my town and passes within 0.3 miles of my home. There are bike lanes and wide sidewalks on practically every main road in the area as well.

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My order of TSP fromAmazon arrived. I already have some Unger Easy Glide with a pinch of Joy and vinegar mixed up do I will be doing comparison testing.
I will mix the TSPwithdeionized water with a ratio of one Teaspoon per gallon, as @Samuel mentioned earlier. This willbe for interior Windows mostly. I will be using the WFP for almost all exterior Windows.

FWIW I do a tablespoon per gallon with TSP using liquidator channels.

1-2 teaspoons will yield a slip similar to Glass Gleam at its recommended mix ratio.

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I like TSP so much that I started using it for carpet cleaning too. Yes, it does have great slip. The first carpet I cleaned with it I was barefoot and almost had a hard landing when I stepped on some tiles, LOL!

Much thanks to @Samuel, @cactus27 and others who educated me on this great product.

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Didnā€™t know that before. Thanks for this info.

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What area in Texas are you located?

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One of the first training sessions for my new employee was with TSP on these metal frame, rubber seal windows. She was squeegeeing and wetting repeatedly.

A couple days later I took a close look and was concerned to see that there was TSP residue and that it was causing a reaction with the metal frame :frowning: Iā€™m not sure if the TSP leached out of the rubber seal or if there was a bit of residue from her final cleaning.

I want to avoid using TSP on metal frames now. For training purposes the TSP glide is great but the total absence of suds is a drawback. Trainees need to be able to easily see missed spots.

teach them my training trick (searching but i canā€™t find it yet) it reveals marks that are completely invisible under normal viewing conditions.

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Ah yes, the mirror in the dark. I forgot the details of that procedure, can you please repeat it?

found it

if you have a reasonably sized bathroom mirror:
clean it with your usual technique.admire how beautifully clean it looks :heart_eyes: .
turn out the light, close the door and shine a good flashlight from the side across the glass while looking closely for streaks or other marks :nerd:
where the F___ did all these marks come from :tired_face:

you must get the angle of the light and you eye at the correct angle, you must actually search the whole surface changing angles as you look. it is also helpful for training your eye to detect what is on the close glass surface and what is on the far side. you will see all the flaws in the back side and the mirroring.
:nerd:
:cactus:27

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Thanks for clarifying. I have looked on a lot of cleaning sites and nobody has said phosphate free works any differently. At ACE hardware when I ask for TSP they sold me a bottle of phosphate free liquidā€¦ I did not know the difference at the time, I was following a recipe online that called for it and I was expecting a powder. I ask them if the liquid was right and they assured me thats what I wanted. I will be going back for a powder.

Looks like an old thread, but Iā€™m searching for a conversation on TSP (trisodium phosphate). I believe that TSP is THE BEST cleaning agent for windows. But beware, the TSP available now is PHOSPHATE FREE!!! Often called TSP-PF, this version can actually etch glass, particularly if you wet from top down. The PF version also does not slip or glide as well. Iā€™ve tried Dawn, Glide, The Pill and a variety of other more recent products, but nothing is as clean and pure as TSP, and no other product makes the glass shine so well.

For those concerned about safety, the only issue is that phosphates are like fertilizers (read Samuelā€™s comments April 2016). Phosphates have been removed from most laundry and dish soaps, and TSP is no exception. Lake Erie has struggled with high algae growth.

Since I cannot find TSP in Ohio or nearby states, Iā€™ve had to buy in Canada. Iā€™ve got enough stock to finish my career with it! 47 years of making it rain and missing spots all done with pure TSP. It hasnā€™t effected me a bit;knert7&$vhjhkbiyt!11! Lolā€¦

John, Perfectly Clear Window Cleaning, LLC
The glass transparency restoration and maintenance engineer

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I have used it. It has great slip and is a very good cleaner, however it dries too fast and
here in AZ that is a problem.

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original tsp can etch glass as well. it should never be allowed to dry on the glass

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