I don’t prefer to use wfp on residential.
Very common to have to wait for the water to dry to be sure all came out fine. By that time we should be gone and on to the next site. We have an inside and outside crew.
While washing windows I don’t like to make another problem for the customer, we find by using the wfp the water rinsing from the window rinses the siding under the windows. Not a concern with stucco or brick obviously but on wood-sided vinyl-sided leaves patches on siding.
if you mean me, i did not question your ethics. i stated that if you are not convinced yourself i would question your ethics if you tried to convince others (customers). you’re happy with your system, i’m happy with mine.
i think the person selling that equipment has missed an opportunity but that’s ok too.
I hear ya! Many think its a magic wand for sure. I agree, nose to glass is ALWAYS best as far as quality go’s.
As far as timing, I’m with you on that too and I’ve actually been on the other side of the fence and a friend of mine was clowning me talking about he’d finish before I even got started and he was almost done by the time I was ready to go, it was a small house with 20/25 windows.
Another point, there are many commercial jobs that I do on a regular basis and over the course of 7 or 8 years, they just need to be done by hand. They just got to a point where it needed to be scrubbed I think.
I don’t know why, all I know is that when I did them by hand one visit, it looked better again when I used the wfp the next visit.
I also agree on the point about people’s perceptions. Disagree about the skill they pay highly for, I don’t think they care.
Your comment about your window lasting longer side by side, I think you’re right on that one too…in the long term at least for the reasons mentioned above.
Good post by the way.
The talk lately about traditional or wfp method on residential made me re think my initial thoughts about it.
Recently I went away from normal and waterfed the exteriors on 2 of my residentials.
Same results as previous where I did need to touch up here and there but overall probably did save time.
I’m often tough to change my methods but do realise the importance of giving things a chance. I will keep after using the wfp on residential more often.
I highly respect that attitude, Jeff. 
Got to have an open mind, especually for those with a lot of experience.
Sometimes I think it’s funny when Noobs start by saying I’m going to ask a stupid question… because sometimes it’s those questions that can open your mind and get you thinking.
I’m a trad man still. Haven’t the knowledge yet about wfp and don’t know if our customers are ready.
But in my area we usually clean windows twice a year. What I’ve read and heard that’s not gonna be the same good result as with traditional method. Any thoughts about that?
not true.
I do first time cleans with it.
Scrub more then? Use a different brush?
Someone told me it takes some times before you get perfect result.
I use my wfp today at a house that hasn’t been cleaned in a few years. Wfp the high windows, that couldn’t get to open. You know our Swedish windows we called fasta fönster.
The customer had never heard about wfp, but she was so impressed she take a foto of it and put it on her instagram.
I use unger nlite brush
Nice man!
It turned out good then?
How much have you paid for your wfp equipment?
Do you have a tank in the car? Or is it a mobile equipment?
To me twice a year cleans sound like the perfect wfp candidate. The windows will barely be dirty anyway!
I was planning on getting one in a year or two. I ended up finding a way to just do it now. It’s not really all that hard. The same day i got it, I did my house in an hour and had nearly perfect results. I’m definitely still learning, but I’m seeing improvement after under a handful of jobs. The ones that needed touch-ups were no problem cause i already saved time, so it only took as long as if i had done trad only. So far, im really happy i took the dive. I say go for it!
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This ability would apply equally to the WC who sells traditional and bashes WFP.
Redundant
Before I had a WFP the outsides took twice as long as the insides. With a WFP it’s the inside that takes twice as long. Haha
I did the Wfp windows first, so let them dry when I did the rest. Turns out perfekt. Sometimes I had made mistakes but I guess I’m better at use it now.
I bought a mobile unit first. Backpack, di tank, pole, brush, hoses etc. I guess that was about 8-10000kr
But you would have to make your water and fill it in dunkar (don’t know the English word). Or you could use the customers out tap directly to the di tank, if they have one.
Just going to order a tank batteri pump etc for the van so I can just fill that with tap water.
You can build it afterwards, like I’m doing now.
Sounds really good! Good to have a Swedish buddy here with better knowledge then me in that area.
You encourage me! Maybe something for next season. Start in a smaller scale.
I guess I have to study the technique also. Some maybe think it’s just scrub a little with the brush, but it must be more then that.
Actually… It’s practically that simple! There are a few details to keep in mind like what parts to hit and in what order, but it’s not rocket science. You can prolly learn most of what you need to know in one evening of YouTube. The rest will come by doing.
