Tips & tricks using 45-60'+ Poles


#1

Would all you experienced monster pole users please share your tips & tricks on raising large waterfed poles, moving them from window to window, how you negotiate deep ledges…etc… If you can put together some demo videos how cool that would be. Thanks


#2

It depends on which brand of pole you are using & also dependent on overhead spray or through brush spray. Which pole do you have? Can’t do vids at the mo’, but I’ll try & give some pointers tomorrow.


#3

Thanks Bro.
I’ll be using the Extel CF 60’ pole with the 26’ goose-neck for the top 2 stories.

To be honest, I’m intimidated, but I know just like every other new thing I’ll learn.
Until now I have used a 45’ Tucker pole. I could almost wash ground level windows with it fully extended. hehe.

Here is the building I’ll be using it on.
I appreciate all your posts Karlos.
http://windowcleaner.com/vBulletin/attachment.php5?attachmentid=160&d=1210033637


#4

Raising Pole:

Hi Chris - all I can say is, I hope you’re tall. Those sections need to be raised from the top sections upwards, whilst doing the balancing act. Being the sections are 6.5 feet each section you need to get the first few sections up before resting against the wall. (That’s why the Emporium poles are coming out with rollers on the back side). Whilst raising in to a crevice in the wall, you then have to get over the ledge shown on the pic). So you will need to take an approach in to the road (You need road cones and/or barriers). Once over the ledge, try to get the pole brush head back into a crevice, so you can have a break & also make sure you have enough hose unwound to keep going. Also try to use your boot or a dent in the road to stop the pole slipping out. Difficult I know, but achievable. If you are like me, I put out 3 or 4 sections & raise upwards, before extending the pole from the bottom - this should get you in the top half of the building before having to rest the brush head in the crevice.

Technique:

Because you are working at height, the further back you are, the more comfortable it will be to work & less neck strain as well. Forget any side to side motion working at that height - before you know it, the pole will be slipping off left or right. At this height you need to concentrate on an up or down movements. Let the weight of the brush do the scrubbing & use a rocking motion (Ionics technique) to save on arm strain or back work. Set a higher flow & spend more time on the sides of the frame (I usually have 4 jets on my brush head - to stop this). Because you are using through jets, usually at lower levels you would take the pole off the glass to rinse. Instead, [B]twist the pole[/B], so that one side of the brush lifts off the glass & take the whole of the brush down one side of the glass (walk the pole back). Don’t try to this from side to side!
Getting over that ledge & hitting the bottom of the glass looks like your biggest problem. If you can’t get the angle, you may have to bend the goose neck or walk back as far as you can. Remember, huge amounts of water is your biggest friend here!
Always leave time for the top windows to finish dripping before attempting to clean the next row down!

Have a look here for more info:http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Video_Section.html

Don’t hesitate to contact Shawn at Reach Higher Ground for more info.


#5

The joint where the glass meets the wall surface look like there may be some water flushing over the building concrete (stucco ? ) or being dragged over by the brush, this could cause limestone contamination and leave calcium deposits on the glass near the edges. You may need to go back to each window after a few minutes and give them a quick rinse without going too near the glass edge. I think the angles on the first floor will be ok if you can stand about 20ft out, otherwise make a longer goose neck to bridge the parapet.
Looks like a good job for a wfp.

I used to use the Ionics 8ft section 2 man 60fter. For 45-60ft work by yourself you do NEED a modular c/f like the Empiorium or Gardiner- makes the job soo much easier.

Here is a “trick” you can do with a modular. Working at low angles, the pole is easily workeable at 30ft and an angle of say 30 degrees as long as you have a light brush. I have worked horizontally at this distance. (click twice on the thumbnail.) Its what we call a “conservatory” over here. The window and conservatory frames are what we term “plastic” or “upvc”


#6

Has anybody used a roof guy with a rope around the top part of the pole to guide the pole at 45-60’ heights? I noticed Jim Willingham had ropes attached to his poles? If so how do you go about it?


#7

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PM me please. I am starting to get some things like this, and could use some data to crunch as I am learning to bid such opportunities profitably and competetively. (I’m not in your area, so I am not your competition.)


#8

Yes the Gardiner pole is the way to roll,fitted with a bently brush all the intimidation goes out the window,that pole is to me the way to go