Thank you Ken! I am sure Aaron is sending me some of these two products. So I will be doing some tests. But will talk to the manufacturers first. I have been looking for a sealant that would resist alkalie attack from mineral deposits, and ultraviolet. But one that would also make the glass hydrophylic. This might be the ticket. We will see.
Also Ken, I sent out your sample today. It is the first chem I started playing with. Tried another one today that didn’t work as well. There might be an additive I can use to minimize the suds. Looking into that now.
Ok I’m testing the super soap today here in Vegas
It is 87 degrees and window being tested is not in direct sunlight.the water here was sent out for testing a few months back and test results came back just under 600 ppm TDS which is above the national limit.don’t ask me how that’s legal since this is suppose to be our tap/drinking water.
My camera kinda sucks so I’m not sure how detailed these pics are coming out.the soap did clean the glass with no effort at all.the only issues I see is very faint streaking I tried to take the picture of it in the last picture.its a very faint light streaking.it does not however wipe off with a dry cloth.
Also, in other peoples tests they seem to have had more suds in there tests where I almost did not have any suds whatsoever on my test.not sure if that’s odd or makes a difference at all.
Thanks so very much for doing the test! The results that I got were absolutely perfect. But that doesn’t always happen in the field. However I do understand the reasons why you got the steaks and I didn’t. Your pictures show the long dry lines. The solution film didn’t drain off so much as it dried on the glass. Because of the heat. And you didn’t have any suds which was great. You followed the instructions perfectly. If you had done the test on a cloudy day with the temp down around 60 you would have got a horizontal rainbow like tree line as the solution drained. Then the glass would have drained perfectly clear. The streaks wouldn’t wipe off dry probably because of the extremely high TDS. I am curious about the clean areas of the window. Were they free of any smudges, spots, or streaks? If so it does prove that such a process does work with very high TDS water.
The bottom line here however is that I cannot promote this product for this application. Yes it does work under special conditions. But there are too many conditions that prevent a perfect drain/clean. Such as sudsing, high heat, and very low humidity. This is what the testing has revealed. Thank you everyone for your devotion to this project.
I will however bring it out as an ingredient for window cleaning formulas with a squeegee. It does dramatically lower the surface tension of water so a single tablespoon to four gallons of water is all you need. And if anyone does have the right conditions you can use it with a WFP and high TDS water without resin or an R/O system.
Yes the clean areas on the glass were dirt and smudge free I believe in the beginning.I also have to agree that even though the temp was considered low to what it was say a month ago here it would still be considered hot to most other places and I’m sure that has to have an impact on the results.all in all I believe even though it did not come out as perfect on my test with all things considered it did pretty good.the water here is horrible.its what is stopping me in even considering buying a wfp system to begin with since the cost of filter replacements and di resin would just not be worth it to me. The companies here in Vegas I have worked for in the past spent a lot of money on systems only to let them sit and collect dust due to operational costs of the system here.I did however like the results of the product with a squeegee
What I am going to suggest next is going to sound totally insane. But what if you were to try this out at night in the moon light when the humidity is high? Sounds nuts I know. But the morning sun might reveal totally clear glass!
That’s interesting I can give it a shot.the only thing though is there is no humidity here at all lol but heck I’ll give it a go and see what it looks like in the morning
I think Cheetah will be a good fit in my climate. When we have temps that get up to the mid 60s I usually just take my dogs to the beach and postpone the WC till the evening. Our climate is not dry either, note the sou’wester in my avatar pic.
Just for a update the windows that I have cleaned with the super soap are still clean so this soap is amazing since usually in Vegas the windows are dirty in 2 weeks again
Travis, You have really got my attention! I have always figured that glass rinsed with pure water should stay cleaner than with any other solution. What if you were to clean one side of a large window with one solution and the other side of the same window with the Cheetah? Then compare after a couple weeks. I really wonder what the results would be.
When I do tests I like to do side by side with the same exact conditions.
