Potential Commercial Job - Considering Using WFP


So I am being sub contracted by a cleaning company to clean the exteriors of about 5 three-story buildings, about 100-150 windows each building for three campuses. I estimated the first campus today, and told the company I would need a lift to clean the 3rd story windows, and I asked if they could either provide one, or would rather me include rental fees within the estimate.

I finish the estimate of the other two campuses tommorrow, but I am strongly considering using a WFP instead of renting a lift, I feel as it would save them more, and allow me to be more efficient than the 3 or less weeks I’ve estimated with using traditional methods.

I’ve never used a WFP, but I’m leaning towards Reach-it, as I’ve seen them mentioned here with glowing reviews in the past.

I know that the last window cleaner for the campus was using an Unger pure water system, and they weren’t pleased with the results, I don’t know if they used bad water, or if their technique left residue.

What’s a good starter kit for a job like this? I would need at least 40 feet to hit some of the higher windows.


You think your ready for a job this size?

Not so much…keep reading reviews on that product. WCR parted ways with that manufacturer.

100-150 Windows per building times 3 buildings should not take you three weeks per campus to clean them traditional.


I only estimated that to give myself time, I expect to be done way sooner because I totally botched my last job with the time limit given due to failure to walkthrough the site.

Better safe than sorry, they aren’t worried about how long it’ll take as long as it isn’t over a month, I just won’t be paid in full until completion.

And thanks on the reach-it, how do you feel about xero?


And it wasn’t 3 weeks per campus, that 3 weeks is for all the campuses, so about 15 buildings in total.


I would be concerned with why they weren’t satisfied with the last guys that used a waterfed system. Perhaps the windows were too bad off and needed to be cleaned traditionally for the first clean?

Do you think a waterfed pole would work on those after you checked it out or will they need more attention?


I definitely think it will be fine. The windows have no paint, frames are clean, no stickers, just dust build up, they are in really good shape.


I would think that WFP would save you a lot of time if you are familiar with the tool. This may not be the best time to learn it but could save you time in the future.

Perhaps do this one traditionally then start learning with the WFP.


Sounds good. I’ll go with a lift then, seeing how they’re footing the bill.

Theylle be paying me 30 percent of my total estimate upfront so WFP or lift were my options.

Now that I think about it, the reason they were displeased from the last cleaner was because the cleaner they contracted went ahead and subcrontacted more cleaners to cut time, resulting in streaking from shoddy cleaning.


I would NOT be afraid to go all WFP on this job. WFP isn’t terribly complicated or hard to learn.

I WOULD recommend a water bar over the brush. Rinsing is superior IMO, using the water bar VS jets in the middle of the brush.

I would also recommend something to scrub the glass IF it’s needed. I like bronze wool. There are choices in the type of holder you can use. Be prepared to use it. Better to have it and not really need it, then need it and not have it.


Thanks again Hoosier.

The last botch up of a CCU taught me to actually take time to realize what it’ll require, what I need to do a potential job, and how to better estimate.

I got the call this morning, and felt I was 10 times more accurate in estimating time required, equipment needed, and cost for my labor. Contract hasn’t been signed yet, but I’ve been adament about my pricing, and its uphill from here.

I’m getting mixed advice, but I’m still inclined to go with a WFP system with the upfront equipment costs the contractor is willing to pay me.

I still have two more campuses to visit tommorrow, but so far, the windows on the first 5 buildings I looked at would definitley do very well with WFP. If the entire job has the same level of cleaning needed, I will go with the WFP.

Still, what would be a great “kit” to go with, given about $1200 in equipment costs within my estimate?


Use your $1200 towards a ready made WCR Xero RODI system with full carbon pole. You could save some money by building your own RODI system but as you are new you would need a lot more support to get it right.


The cost will depend on what you realistically need to buy. There is a significant cost difference between a DI only and a RO/DI. If you live in a higher TDS area, you will need the latter if you will use the filtration much, You’ll also need to know how many stories high you’ll be cleaning. You either will need to buy a pole high enough to cover you at the point of purchase or buy a pole you can add sections to later.

@John is a good guy to talk to about it. He can recommend something best for your situation. I won’t get into recommending specific equipment in the situation because I don’t know enough particulars of your situation.


Buy the WFP- learn on this particular job how to use it (its not rocket science) and check your results as you go. You are a professional when you leave the customer a perfectly clear and spotless windows. Renting a lift is just like renting a house- when the jobs done your left with nothing. Invest in a WFP, you get to keep it and you will find all kinds of jobs that will be made so much easier in the future along with getting them done faster.



I wish there was a way to private message someone here on the forum.

Windowmen, dont stear away from things because of what forums say. Do your own research on things well and make a determination on what you feel is best for your money. Cant say much here without getting deleted again. There are many great poles out there, I almost switched my thoughts to a Gardner Xtreme 47 but think I will stick with my first pick.

Hope you get the job and it works out great for you!


Call me and I can help you.