First Class!!
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It is insane.
Crazy good though that it works for you.
I will continue cutting to form my Liquidator rubbers (out of Ettore material lol) like Polzn does…
I sorta agree with his “surgical precision” idea…
But whatev man, it works for you so-- hey ho the dairy oh…
Bent tips on the Ettore channel? Sorry but I don’t quite understand. Like dog earring?
Were I live most of the places we clean, are cleaned twice per year. So we have to work pretty hard with the sleeve.
I’ve seen this and tried myself. Works pretty good.
But I now a days cut them like the original. Looks better 
He he…
If you work with a tool for 19 years I guess you know it and can treat it as good as you treat and handle your old wife 
I have a lot of respect for experienced window cleaners. They can learn you a lot.
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That’s my thing Steve. Get that XYZ axis down with dive bombs and sky rockets. I keep trying to give these liquidators a chance but it just seems they turned the square wheel into a triangle.
Love Unger Ninja.
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Hey Steve, in your defense there is a guy been doing windows longer than me still asks me in jest if I’m using my “special squeegee”. 
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Thats funny! 
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I must add that the newer guys also pick up things that older guys can learn from…
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re experienced vs new. the guy that trained me had 14 years experience or so, the guy that owned the company had 30 years. one used to say “we’ve been doing it this way for 30 years” the other would i’ve been doing this so long there’s nothing i haven’t seen before" haha both of them laughed at me for buying my wfp and now they have one, a pos dual di system neither one knows anything about, i had to help get it working on a job i helped with one day. and neither has any clue about anything invented since 1920 unless i tell them. there’s still some experience issues they have over me but knowledge of MODERN window cleaning i rule over them.
do i have respect for experienced window cleaners ABSOLUTELY but its taken 4 years for the guy that trained me to start admitting some of the stuff i told him 3 years ago is worthwhile.
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re angle cut rubber vs square cut rubber in an angle channel: this may depend on the frames. i do alot of testing things at my own home. on my windows i can get no detail required with reg channel and rubber, angled channel and angled rubber or angled channel square rubber.
on my mirror i can get no detail with reg channel and rubber, angled channel with angled rubber BUT no way in hell can i get detail free with angled channel and square rubber
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That’s the reality isn’t it? Good story…
Totally agree Jordie.
Hey Steve man, liking the new profile pic… what is the G for on your hat?
I definitely see the value in trying as many things as possible, I’m always tinkering, which i think we all are, as evidenced by the forum discussions.
But that’s what I’m trying to say - 1920 inventions and modern technology aren’t really that different. In 1920, they were basically using a floor squeegee to clean glass.
In 1936, Ettore invented what we use today.
In the 1950’s, Tucker “invented” pure water and wfp.
Since then, not much is changed. Moermon dog eared their ends and gave support to the whole rubber. But it’s still 1936. We say “evolved” when we mean “adapted”. (No one said that here, just a general observation.)
Adapted meaning the thing underwent changes but still remains the thing.
Evolved would mean a complete change of method, such as wfp.
But with traditional tools, this thread discusses the latest technology, yet look at how many issues are still at play. How can we round that wheel out?
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Thanks… Green Bay Packers!!
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Actually what Moerman did, that no other company has, is listened to a window cleaner explain in great detail his personal philosophy of dog earring, reasons, benefits etc and worked with him in developing a credible manufactured solution that took the necessity of DIY home shed solutions away. For those that have altered and adapted their workflow and techniques to dog eared channels this is a time saving god send BUT if you never subscribed in the first place and really can’t see the point in doing it, then the simple answer is …don’t buy them.
On another note the single point free pivoting squeegee ( Wagtails zealously guarded and protected patent for many years) was and is evolutionary. Took the humble but tried and true fixed handle design and gave it uses and refinements that were simply not possible prior. The ability to accurately fan on a pole. Extra Reach both high and low. Ergonomically easier to reach the most awkward situated glass. The Flipper pad was also a stroke of genius… Moerman have entered the fray, with many of the refinements that Wagtail users have pleaded for, for years.
A great first effort, which will continue to be refined.
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Still giving the LQDTR a shot and also just got my XCLRTR 18".
Love my Wag now that the pad is screwed right into the extruded metal. Can’t tell you the many frustrations of Wag pads slipping off in the middle of jobs in freezing cold… Use my Wag every day and starting to like the Excelrtor.
Also love that Moerman actually listens to their customers.
I haven’t delved into the science of dogearing, even though I did try it for awhile. It would most certainly be an interesting read, I’m sure! It would definitely enhance my appreciation for the LQ.
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Update on the excelerator… it was the angle of the rubber to the glass, its amazing what one step forward or backward will do for you… 
I was so use to the angle needed for the unger zero degree.
Close out are still a pain, but i got the work around so it all good so for now!
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so would the 10 degree angle work almost the same as the unger zero?
