I typically use dish soap. I also have gg4. I was thinking why not get the best of both worlds and used mostly the dish soap and add some gg4. Is gg4 meant to use by itself? I tried this… But it doesn’t get nearest sudsy as dish soap.
lots of info on this Gg4 msds
dish soap leaves a film on glass. the chems that create the suds are what leaves the film. gg4 is designed clean a different way.
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Used alone, gg4 makes almost no suds (by design as @cactus27 already said) . I am still experimenting with it, but there have been a couple times using only gg4 and water mixed per the mfg’s suggestion, where I added a drop of dish soap to my sleeve so I could see where I needed to squeegee.
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i use Glass Gleam 4 hot and double dose as a prewash on all the work I do. The results are always better , when I dont prewash the quality is not the same
GG4 in traditional work is also much cleaner. If you do 2 windows side by side with GG4/Dawn you can see the effect. The Dawn leaves residue on the glass and the window does not look as well.
Commercial customers say the glass stays cleaner in dirty envioroments because the lack of soap residue wont let the dust stick to the glass. They are more satisfied with the work.
Also the dissolve of GG4 on spider and bird mess and even some light paint make WFP much cleaner, especially HOT
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Seems to me the moment you add any soap to GG you have negated all the benefits. Just make a decision what’s more important: Speed and ease of use (dish soap) or quality and lasting results (glass gleam).
There may be some who will take umbrage and say that GG is just as fast, and for them it may very well be. But for me and for many others, it’s hard to beat fanning with a nice slippery soap.
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Most of the questions you have had lately are good but covered in past threads. There is a tons of threads on them, if you use the search function like @cactus27 shared with you, you might be able to pick up some really cool tips and ideas by using the search function first…
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yup.
re fast: it takes more skill to work with less slip. that is not a shot against anyone it’s what i have learned and observed.
when being taught my teacher showed me how much dish soap and tsp (his preferred mix) to add. i could not fan without tons of mistakes and neither could my helper.
i still cannot work well with his formula but he learned with it and has used it for 15 years he fans as fast as lightning.
when i try to use a swivel squeegee i need even more.
gg4 would be easiest to use with straight pulls, tougher to fan with and tougher still to wag, additionally with no residue left you cannot zoom back over to catch that mistake so you must be more accurate from the start.
i am testing gg4 (don’t have gg glide yet) at home and it is an adjustment!
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awesome, how are applying
You guys do realize that if you add dish soap to GG4 it’s not GG4 anymore, right?
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I use a Garelick 24 ft pole with 18 and 10 inch Unger ninja swivel and a 6 inch stuzy swivel (because theres no 6 inch Unger Ninga) to apply hot glass gleam 4 double dose with accuracy at angles and mostly a Gardiner SLX 30 with swivel brush for accurate low flow rinse. I have 55 ft Gardiner exterme, 16 foot Unger nlite, 21 foot Unger Aluminum ( beater pole in bad situations) and a reach it mini with extentions ( for electrically dangerous situations.
Gardiner has a scraper attachment that is a great tool for raising and lowering replacment window half non locking screen. This technique will cut your time by half on some houses.
Also the use of a sprayer (Shuflow Propack or Gardiner) will cut your use of DI water by 4/5 ths over running from the customers tap. Youll get better results too with low flow sprayer settings because of a more accurate rinse. Most days I use less than 15 gallons because of the hot prewash.
All these steps are accuracy improvents resulting in less water used and superior work
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Amen bro 
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Are you now mate only using gg3/gg4? If so how do you like it?
think ill stick w/ the gg4 for straight pulls. other techniques… add a drop or two soap on the washer to see where i’ve missed. i heard that tsp can leave a film as well? maybe ill prewash w/ soap/tsp. finish w/ gg4. knowledge is good, just need to add more experience. thanks all
on second thought after reading the thread cactus27 posted above. i wont mix anything w/ gg4. as said, it renders gg4 meaningless. & gg4 isnt cheap.
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Yes it certainly can. It’s clear on the pane like GG when it’s wet, so it’s easy to miss a nick if you’re not paying attention. When it dries it will be very cloudy. But it wipes off easily with a clean towel, no need to re-wet the window.
By my math it’ll mix at about 19¢ per gallon of water
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actually mixed properly gg4 is incredibly cheap:
One gallon of GG-4 concentrate makes 512 gallons of window cleaning solution.
$50 divided by 512 is less than 10 cents per gallon even at the max mix rate it still makes over 250 gallons at under 20 cents per gallon.
if you use a squirt bottle instead of a bucket you should be able to do at least 2 and maybe 4 or 5 hundred dollar jobs.
most guys i see on youtube are using ALOT of soap and i use quite a bit myself many times more than gg4.
haha you posted while i was writing @Samuel
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just got it and am shut down for winter so i’m experimenting with it (gg4)
so are you mixing the gg4 and hot water in bucket and dunking scrubber or running a hose from a back sprayer???
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what does mixing hot mean?
I meant hot water
