We use them on the daily Mike - Not every tuck and not every job, but it gets used everyday.
Yea turning down the pressure was a big move for usā¦ Stuff was always splashing all over the place and pulling dirt down. Ive learned less is more over time.
He is right, on the large doors though, he made a mistake and let his pencil jets his the sides (frame) and that could lead to bleeding from the sidesā¦
he needs the aqua-dapter in a bad way!
Notice how he rinses on even hydrophilic glass. Really good method. On the windows that have one directly on top of the other, the idea is correct about letting it drip before you do the bottoms, but you might want to give it more time than he does, especially on commercial buildings.
Why do guys invest thousands of dollars into expensive systems before they even know if they will be using the set up several times a week?
If itās a once or twice a week tool all you need is a DI tank or cart. Who cares about the cost of resin in a high TDS area. When usage goes up and resin costs exceed the cost of a big rig UPGRADE.
I think a good pole is more important than fancy filters.
$850 for a CF SLX pole and $600 for a DI tank or cheap cart. JMO
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I have dreams of making a lot of extra money with my WFP. If things donāt work out I only have $1,400 invested. When It works itās GREAT. But sometimes it really comes out BAD.
Window cleaning is no different than any other industry. There are upgrades to technology every year. I know people who literally spend thousands every year to have the most current phone, laptops, TVās etc. I know people in the cleaning industry that also spend big bucks on āvanity equipmentā they saw at a trade show that rarely increases their efficiency enough to make them more competitive. Actually, I find those who buy this ācutting edgeā equipment at a disadvantage because they have to put in higher bids to pay for the equipment.
Now, I will say that those who intend to buy a wfp system and go after accounts where they will use those systems 4 to 5 hours everyday, and those accounts are a large part of their gross, you need to buy the best āstuffā you can afford. For the one man operation doing store fronts and resiās and grossing less than 100K per year, you donāt have enough work to justify a 5 to 10K system and a simple pole setup with a DI tank is sufficient. Equipment that sits around unused, tends to stop working quickly
I made that forum post questioning the standards of quality of WFP users. I see you are in Winnipeg, similar climate to mine. A couple Montana WCers and I have been wondering if climate has anything to do with it. Everyone who loves the WFP is on the coast or in a humid area. I am now wondering if the humidity helps in some way. When it is 3% humidity and the sun is baking things to the glass there is more work to be done on the window vs a window near the coast or in a more humid part of the country. This is just a theory, but it could explain why those of us on the high plains hate WFP.
Itās an interesting theory but there are plenty of users in places like Arizona who are getting great results and they have low humidity and plenty of sun. The biggest problem factors are operator error, poor frame conditions, pressure to high, or high winds.
Iām going to have to keep this at the forefront of my mind. I thought I had it understood but I wasnāt being precise enough with the pencil jet water. And I was thinking more is more, ANYTHING to rinse off whatever was causing the spots.
I never even considered the sides as being a source of contaminationā¦ Doh! Iāve seen lots of spotting on the bottom half of main floor windows, to the point where Iād quickly squeegee them if I could reach.
Jeez, I wish I had more work. Iām actually going to bring my DI in and store in the basement. It occurred to me that it might pop if I let it freeze. Our nights are going below 0C, tomorrow I think the low is -7C.:o
You need to work a day or two with another wcer like me who wfp everyday. I can understand your frustration, it happens when you first learn to use a squeegee, remember those days. Setting up you truck or van is key to the ease of wfp. Take a look at my setup on youtube.
YouTube - backback.mp4
Thatās a nice set up. Minimal time to get working at the job site.
As a solo operator with mostly a RRR clientele on a quarterly basis, it rocks. I use it on probably 90% of my first time cleans mostly to get the frames really clean, I live in an ag area, its dirty here. I will have a couple touchups usually, after that, itās flo blow and go. I always do exterior first too btw.
Can you imagine what window cleaners talked about when Ettore invented the squeegee. I am sure there were many that loved it and saw the time saving and body saving advantages of the squeegee verses two chamios. Most people forget all the problems they had when they first started wcing with a squeegee. How long did it take you to learn how to do pole work with out lines? How about fanning a window with not water left behind. The same is true for learning to wfp. It takes practice. The more you use it the better you get. Donāt be so quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Yeah, I have had spotting issues with the lower half of the windows as well, and that video put me on to something I did not think about before. Tony showed a video of what he does when he gets the occasional bleed or spottingā¦I got 5 bottles of Spray Way in my trailer and use his method whenever it happens. Sure beats breaking out the pole and equipment again and works great.
They can always sell it to me, I will buy em up if the price is right! Bad wfp, badā¦hit me up woot woot!
Well, if you were like me, you purchased a RHG RO/DI electric cart and Gardiner SL-X 30 and SL-56 poles to clean the mid-rise campus after being awarded the contract.
Thatās the way youāre supposed to do it. Get the work, then buy the equipment. Iām always ass backwards on things, buy the equipment then get the workā¦ my thinking is āIāll be readyā
Crap! Thatās what I just did when I purchased my GlassRenu system!
Hey Larry,
Glad to hear that you have so much work that you are saving a boat load of money on DI resin every month. It doesnāt always work out that way for everybody who gets a WFP system.
Hey Larry,
How many cubes of DI resin would you burn through in a month if you didnāt have your RO/DI cart?
Very good post John and great point!
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Howdy John ,
Iām Dangerous but you can call me Dange,
Ettore didnāt invent the squeegee he just redesigned it into a better toolā¦The squeegee before Ettore brass squeegee was the Chicago Squeegee, a real clunker, sort of reminds me of Sorbos stuff !
Also the real old timers I believe before the squeegee came to be, used a natural sea-sponge for scrubbing the glass and a chamois to dry and polish it out ! Iām almost 100% sure of these 2 points, but if thereās anyone with different info clue us in !
The Dange
