A perfect ZERO Detail Tool - the Window Cleaner's Unicorn?

I’m not sure I buy my argument either. I’m just in a weird place with this tool and it’s hard to resist developing some form of window washing luddism as a backlash.

I was not aware those other rubbers are of the same dimension as the genuine Moerman. So that may change some things for me. Really it would have been nice if the manufacturer advertised anything regarding compatibility with their new channels.

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Even though I predominantly work solo I’ve always quoted as for what is considered a ‘standard competent worker’. The fact that i’ve developed skills that enable me to wrap up that job quickly and efficiently is simply ‘money in the bank’ financially, time and energy wise for me. But, when, if, should I decide to change my business model then the numbers still work and I avoid the illusion that an employee will work for me the same as I work for me… :slight_smile:

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First noticed that at end of the clip has a point that is about 3mm higher.
Which would of done the job.
BUT as you said they had to bend it forward to compensate for the natural ‘spring’ in the plastic.
But believe instead of bending the clip forward could of made the clip thicker at the end.( Eliminating the spring in the clip)
At the same time acting like a bumper against the window frames.

It’s only absurd to a solo operator who has prided himself on his work and tells himself that his customers stay with him because he does such a great job.

Their is some truth to that but experience has taught me their is less truth to it than we think. In other words there is other benefits that compete with our “perfect job”. For instance. No company that has employees is going to do as good of a job as a solo operator pricing his leg on his work (experience being equal) so as soon as you hire employees your standards will drop as far as the customers customer is concerned. The point is in order to offer a perfect job every time your going to have to stay solo. Being solo has some draw backs and that is job time and availability.

To some customers the time you spend at their house and your availability matters the same if not more than a perfect job. If the job is decent it’s satisfactory if your not there long and they can call to schedule last minute.

No detail and perfect job results only works for certain business models, mainly solo operators. It can also work with companies who try to hire experience cleaners but with that model experienced cleaners tend to be finicky themselves and prefer their squeegee of choice. What works for one doesn’t work for the other. Guys will even pay for their own Squeegees and blades if they can use their tools of choice (I’ve experienced that myself with employees).

Your brother has realized over all it works better for his company to use simple techniques and provide the customer with an alternative benefit other than a perfect job. It called being an entrepreneur and not a window cleaner.

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That’s good! Not everyone realizes this until they start to hire o b and have problems. Those types tend to go through employees becias they are too picky.

Brother is just a hired gun. The owner is a guy who bought a turnkey business without knowing how to clean windows himself. Apparently he does just fine so hey.

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There’s an advantage to being bloody minded about settling on one tool style. When I got the first prototype Excelerator, for the first few weeks I continued to carry my modded “Wagulators” with me. I had some teeth gritting times with both the handle and the Fliq pad. Closing out was problematic with pad underneath (and still is). The pivot was almost too quick and the overall shape of the bottom plate required a change of technique for clean close out. Also the nailing the correct angles for higher pole work was a challenge. I was finding when things became a touch difficult that I would revert to my ‘old faithfuls’, in short, what I was used to. By the end of about the 3rd week I was ready to put in a less than glowing report to Moerman, but made a decision to use ONLY the Moerman tool for at least a week and leave my normal kit at home. Surprise, surprise. Having no choice I was forced to adapt and optimise the tool I had on hand. I fine tuned pole angles which also cleaned up the close out issues, bit the bullet and used the pad as designed and used by Bob and Luke, top flip, worked fine. For in hand work, I took the pad off and used it as pivot only with scrubber other hand. I never use it in fixed mode. You see where I’m coming from here? I FORCED myself to lose the ‘muscle memory’ of my Wag/Liq/Pad and optimise for another tool. The prototype still had a couple of issues that had to be addressed but at least by giving it 100% I isolated the issues with the tool as supplied instead of comparing it to what I was used to.

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… Pretty much, yeah.
I use Ettore brass and all ettore down the line. I detail. One scrim gets me through
the day…As long as don’t use it for sills or frames. :slight_smile:

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I think that’s a great point. Personally, my aim is to have as simple, repeatable, and trainable of a process as possible for when i hire one day (hopefully). Until then, my goal is to become as efficient and fast as possible. If it allows me to fit in more work and make more money, that would be welcome. But even if it means i can play 15 minutes extra of Fire Emblem Heroes, I mean, spending time with my family, per day, that’d be great too.

Truth be told, I’ve always been an organization and efficiency nazi, so the quest for the best techniques and tools will likely never end. But heck, I think it’s great when your job sort of becomes your hobby too. I think all these discussions show just how much we love what we do.

Realistically, any time i save not detailing will likely be spent shooting the breeze on the forum anyway. :laughing:

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Spend much time in the printing and shipping biz?

Lol how did you guess? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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i think its a trade off - you save time by not having to detail, but you have to concentrate a whole lot more . its similar to using a quill pen over a biro. the result looks better but it does your head in after a while using the quill

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I agree. That’s my focus. For me there is not much more that can be improved when it come to efficiency and technique. For me growth is going only come from focusing my attention on the back end of my business. The main thing I can do to improve efficiency at this point is to fully incorporate the wfp into my operation. It won’t be the end all answer but it will make some improvements in efficiency and capabilities.

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Unicorn.

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@anon35812390 Thanks for humoring me on this thread so far. I’m really not trying to be obstinate, just stirring the pot to see what opinions I can collect for the forum’s readers. Your input is a really reasonable balance to the debate in favor of the old ways.

@whatapane Thank you too, for your logical dissection of the quest for zero-detail. It’s apparent that one need not be losing sleep over a little water at the edge of the glass.

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BINGO!

Just lose sleep on figuring out how your/we are going to get the neighbors Windows!

Edit: your, to your/we!

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Sometimes people have the urge to reinvent the wheel. Sometimes the original idea is the best idea

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I used a 24" Sotho and a ledger on most windows . The key is your solution . we mix 1/3 dawn 2/3 glass Greem 4 and 1/3 simple green in a solo 2 gal sprayer

People are really really scroogey in Dunedin! Slightly less scroogey in Christchurch. Generous in Rotorua. Slightly more generous in Auckland (= my experience).

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Of course. Our sister city is Edinburgh after all. :slight_smile:

By the by. You know that Hygiene Direct now stock Moerman in Chch…